
JSm00th
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3/24/2003 11:36:00 AM
Ok I gotta Vent:
I've travelled alot & were ever I go with pride I say "I Am Canadian" and I like our lifestyle & our attitudes toward things but, to see American Soldiers & british soldiers fighting in Iraq & to not see Canadian Soldiers bugs me. Alot of people are not looking at the big picture here, Saddam Hussain is a THREAT to society maybe not now, but who knows 5-10 yrs from now. Bush's plan is to get rid of all the axis of evil. What us Canadians don't realize is that we feel immune to any terrorism that what happened across the border will never happen to us, what do we think that from some reason we can walk the streets of Baghdad with out being shot or harrased & a american beside us will? Sure we don't have to follow America on everything that they do, but lets face it 70% of our economy is dependent on them & if ANYTHING ever happened to us, you think the states would sit there & be like its not our war its not our problem, I don't think so they be the first ones there & have always been anywhere in the world when ever a geo-political situation arised. Yes some Americans are arrogrant & stupid & blah blah blah but alot of my family lives in the states & they're not like that we're stereotyping them just like you feel they stereo type us. I just wish watching CNN that our boys were side by side the american boys fighting for liberation for a safer world, so before the war i was 50/50 on this thing but now understanding it & seeing that Iraq indeed had missles & have a chemical plant I am behind this thing 100%
Edited by - Tanai on 3/25/2003 6:54:29 PM
*edit: this is a current affair.
Edited by - rollergirl on 3/26/2003 2:31:52 AM
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Trouble_Magnet
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3/24/2003 11:38:00 AM
i am amarican and canadian and i like the canadian part
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joel
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3/24/2003 11:38:00 AM
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Xtafen
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3/24/2003 11:40:00 AM
seeing that Iraq indeed had missles & have a chemical plant I am behind this thing 100%
The Americans "habour" the most chemical plants producing weapons and missiles in the whole world.
Does this mean we should take those ones out too?
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JSm00th
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3/24/2003 11:40:00 AM
^ have u ever spoke to someone in the Canadian Army & asked them how ready of an army they have? Most of them are all reserves we have nothing when it comes to an army atleast we could've send some of our navy there
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JSm00th
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3/24/2003 11:42:00 AM
thats not the point i was getting at what i was saying, I think most of the UN assumed that Iraq didn't have any weapons but where the f*ck are these guys getting these things from? I think Iraq has more up they're sleeve then the world thinks & even US
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amer_
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3/24/2003 11:45:00 AM
Why would Canada fight? The US isn't fighting because Saddam is a threat to society, they're fighting because Saddam is a threat to their interest in the Middle East area, thus the oil production.
I'm very happy that Canada isn't in agreement with the war plans. Resorting to war is the perfect display of devolution. We're trying to move forward not backwards.
That's my opinion.
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wolfchick
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3/24/2003 11:49:00 AM
Canadian.
Proud to have the option to be proud and to be ashamed without having retaliation for either.
The dialogue should never end, and political correctness should not interfere with free speech.
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JSm00th
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3/24/2003 11:49:00 AM
Most of the money made by the oil will go the cost of the war 75 billion & to re-build Iraq after the war & on a side note I don't know about you but i don't like payin 89.9 cents for gas, increase oil production from the fields will bring down the barrel to about 18 dollars which will suffice for me, not only that but the end of this war will jump start the US economy thus improving our economy at the same time...........look at in a broader sense man..
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amer_
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3/24/2003 11:55:00 AM
I think world peace is far more important than the improvement of national economy.
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TinaBelle
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3/24/2003 12:02:00 PM
What makes Saddam Hussein different than Hitler?
Because Hitler put characteristics on the people he killed? Because Hussein just kills anyone he doesn't like, or anyone who doesn't agree with him?
Saddam Hussein has killed more of his own civilians since 1976 (that's 27 YEARS of power).. than the US will EVER kill.
I didn't necessarily agree with the war to begin with.. and I don't necessarily believe in it now.. but, look at how many civilians are actually HAPPY and REJOICING when the American troops restore the power of the country back to them.
This is a way for a weak nation to overthrow a horrible man who's been allowed to be in power for far too long.
Maybe you don't agree with all of it... but how can ANYONE say that we're not doing at least SOME longterm good in the country?
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whipgirl
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3/24/2003 12:03:00 PM
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SYLVRR
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3/24/2003 12:05:00 PM
"look at it in a broader sense man"
Think you now this.
The number one priority of the war right now is to secure the oil fields. Yes for the Iraqi people after the war, but not without Britain and USAs' greedy fingers in there first. Also the oilfields are a source of FUEL. This is also a tactical maneuover on the US's part. Once they have oil, they have fuel. And when they have fuel, they can operate tanks, helicopters, generators and whatever the fack they need fuel for.
And yes, Iraq is a threat and has been for the past 10- however years. What of the paranoia then?
Americans celebrated the Academy Awards last night. Did they celebrate anything soon after 9/11?
I am proud that Canada is going to give humanitarian support to the people of Iraq that actually deserve it and not to the hippocritical United States of America who are hellbent on destroying as much of the middle east as possible. I'm not sayinf there was peace before, but what the hell do you actually think this war is going to mean to the people of the middle east. We have protesters her demonstrating for anti-war here in Canada and the US and the 'demonstrators' in Pakistan and on the West Bank (to name a few) are doing it for the same cause, but because they are the ones that are closest to the actual war and the genocide that is occuring and actually see the horror that war has wrought on their territory already they are protesting in the only way that they can. WE here in Canada complain about police brutality when they fire tear gas into the crowd, but over there they beat protesters like slabs of meat.
Don't tell others to see the big picture when you don't even see it yourself.
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amer_
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3/24/2003 12:13:00 PM
D e v o l u t i o n . . .
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TinaBelle
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3/24/2003 12:13:00 PM
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SYLVRR
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3/24/2003 12:19:00 PM
Oh, so it's okay for Americans to go out on the town and celebrate and have a gay ol time when another country is being attacked, but as soon as facking America has one incident everyone cowers in fear. The middle east goes through violence much worse than that every day.
Just like when Pearl Harbour was attacked. The good ol US of A wasn't even much of a support in WWII until they got attacked then they go and decimate a couple Japanese cities..... wow, a sucker punch.
And what about this whole Rules of War bullsh!t? Iraq took hostages, it's war for fack sakes, Americans are trying to take out a countries structure, what do they expect.. the Iraqi military and government to lay down and take it up the canal?
Americans seem very surprised that Iraq is fighting back.....
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joel
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3/24/2003 12:35:00 PM
This is great debate, I'm making this thread global.
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Cali_Goddess
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3/24/2003 12:35:00 PM
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Xtafen
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3/24/2003 12:36:00 PM
Most Canadians are jealous of Americans.
Ignorant and arrogant statement.
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OvêrProtêcted_Angél
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3/24/2003 12:36:00 PM
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TinaBelle
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3/24/2003 12:40:00 PM
so it's okay for Americans to go out on the town and celebrate and have a gay ol time when another country is being attacked, but as soon as facking America has one incident everyone cowers in fear. The middle east goes through violence much worse than that every day.
lol.. my point was really that after Sept 11th people were mourning... some peope went out and did shiit, some people sat in front of their TV. Just like what's going on now... You act like all Americans are heartless... then even YOU talk about the protests of Americans against war. Hmmmmmm...
and what about this whole Rules of War bullsh!t? Iraq took hostages, it's war for fack sakes, Americans are trying to take out a countries structure, what do they expect.. the Iraqi military and government to lay down and take it up the canal?
Americans seem very surprised that Iraq is fighting back.....
WHAT AMERICANS? Don't judge our whole fukcing nation on your own personal opinion, idiot. I'm surprised Iraq hasn't fought back more. I think if Saddam was smart... he would have used his weapons of mass destructions against us already, being that he has nothing to lose anyways.
As far as "rules of war" go... yea, there are rules. Did the US make up these rules? No. Go ahead... blame us for that also. It's not like the rules are that you can't kill an American or anything. It's that you treat a POW humanely. Kill him, don't torture him. What the fukc is wrong with that???
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