Dutch people are nazis and stupid brainless fvcks,,,
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MemberDutch people are nazis and stupid brainless fvcks,,,
DeeCeeYuuk
DeeCeeYuuk Promoter (1408posts)
12/8/2004 10:28:00 AM
,,,according to Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,140612,00.html

DOH DOH DOH!!!! STUPID AMERICANS!!! bang head bang head bang head bang head

Why talking sh¡t about my country (all LIES LIES LIES), while they don't even know their own country! DOH! bang head angry

*moved to current affairs*

Edited by the moderators on 12/8/2004 6:32:50 PM

dutchsurfer
dutchsurfer Member (55posts)
12/8/2004 10:59:00 AM
Yeah, I can't believe that they dare to write such a thing. This is an enormous insult to all Dutch people. But ok, it is from the newsstation Fox that announced Bush as a president 4 years ago before he was even officially elected. So they say more things that are incorrect.
But this is absolutely incorrect and drawing the wrong conclusions.
Anne Frank was Dutch and was murdered by the Nazi's, which were the Germans that invaded our country and murdered many more people.
Such a huge insult to call the Dutch people the Nazi's. angry

Karebare
Karebare Member (627posts)
12/8/2004 11:06:00 AM
Grouping all dutch ppl into that catigory when it is 1 hospitals doing, just isnt right. Its racist. I agree that if what that article says is true, its horrific to say the least.

Senior
Senior Promoter (2633posts)
12/8/2004 11:14:00 AM
The problem with FAUX news is that it doesn't provide any details and has crappy writers. They are just looking to get a rise out of people and it would seem frequently do. In this article they present this story as news when it is actually an opinion or editorial report. News requires the presentation of facts that would allow a reader to form an independant opinion.

Senior
Senior Promoter (2633posts)
12/8/2004 11:14:00 AM
quote:
Grouping all dutch ppl into that catigory when it is 1 hospitals doing, just isnt right. Its racist. I agree that if what that article says is true, its horrific to say the least.

Thanks for validating my point so perfectly.

kcirtaP
kcirtaP Member (32788posts)
12/8/2004 11:17:00 AM
I love GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD!


londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
12/8/2004 1:50:00 PM
but its not factually incorrect and it is an opinion piece - what's the problem? blank stare

Senior
Senior Promoter (2633posts)
12/8/2004 2:49:00 PM
quote:
but its not factually incorrect and it is an opinion piece - what's the problem?
Oh really?

FOX News says,
quote:
A Dutch hospital is euthanizing — killing — newborn babies who don't measure up to an arbitrary standard set by the hospital.

With 2 minutes of research I was able to find that these babies who "don't measure up to an arbitrary standard" are actually babies born in great pain from incurable disease or extreme deformities. Now I'm not sure if I agree with this practice but FOX sure didn't help me have an informed opinion on the issue. The FOX article also fails to mention that since 2003 this option has been used a total of 4 times.
quote:

The guideline says euthanasia is acceptable when the child's medical team and independent doctors agree the pain cannot be eased and there is no prospect for improvement, and when parents think it's best.

Also comparing the Dutch to Nazi's and this practice to the Hollocost severely belittle's those issues.

As for the fact that it is an opinion piece, I missed that, my bad.


londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
12/8/2004 5:44:00 PM
^your point being?

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
12/8/2004 7:21:00 PM
Bubble Boy:

I'm sure you'd be all up in our face if PBS was giving a forum for a white suppremist group to trash the entire nation of Israel.

What's your problem? it's just his opinion.... blank stare

Fox is such SH*T. I want the dutch to sue for libel!

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
12/8/2004 7:26:00 PM
BWAYAHAHAHA

This is my favourite stream of quotes form this article:

FIRST
Once a single category of life is declassified as having no intrinsic value and a right to life, it is a very short step to declassify other categories when they are considered inconvenient, or burdensome

SECOND
The Dutch are now grappling with their open border policy. They have admitted thousands of radical Islamists who have not assimilated and are threatening the stability of the nation.


FIRST - he takes the position that all life is equal and we shouldn't differentiate and when we do, it's a slippery slope to becoming monsters.

SECOND - he takes the position that not all life is equal because there exist these demons called 'islamists', and of course he probably supports the slippery slope in guantanamo bay and other acts of becoming a monster.

H Y P O C R I T E! heart

Prog
Prog Member (6268posts)
12/10/2004 1:26:00 AM


That was a pretty atrocious article.

Could this writer not have at least identified the Dutch filmmaker and said "Theodore van Gogh"? How hard would it have been to do that?

Do Dutch people really smoke pot all over the place all the time? Is this one of the contributing demises of the country? If this were the case, would it be decriminalized? I haven't been to Holland so I wouldn't know, although I would like to.

And about the instability of the country. I don't know about you guys, but angry Dutch people burning mosques around the country probably are not helping matters at this point. Is it really the muslim community that is causing all this anarchy?

And finally, but not least. To those psychopathic muslims that can't handle free speech in modern nations expressed through film, can you not practice your non-modern dogma somewhere else? Like I don't know, back in your homeland?

raegirl
raegirl Member (289posts)
12/11/2004 12:13:00 AM
Do Dutch people really smoke pot all over the place all the time? Is this one of the contributing demises of the country? If this were the case, would it be decriminalized? I haven't been to Holland so I wouldn't know, although I would like to

No, in fact when I was there I didn't notice anyone smoking anymore pot in public then I do here in Canada. Holland was awesome. In fact, as people they rank highly up on my list. Sure they may be brutally honest... but we could use more of that. Crossing the border from Germany to Holland was a great experience. Instantly people sparked conversation, helped with luggage/ directions.

Anyways, I'm going totally off topic here. It was not a potfest 24/7, and I truly doubt that the decriminalization of pot there, has negatively affected the country.
Peace.

star_69
star_69 Member (20134posts)
12/11/2004 3:53:00 PM
Ever see a PSV Eindhoven game?

Gone2
Gone2 Member (3584posts)
12/12/2004 10:14:00 AM
I loved smoking Nepalese Temple ball hash in Amsterdam.

When I die, dont send me to heaven.
Send me to Amsterdam.

chef_liam
chef_liam Member (1200posts)
12/12/2004 4:30:00 PM
PSV Eindhoven?
i used to have a jersey
from the mid eighties

Ikken_Hisatsu
Ikken_Hisatsu DJ/Artist (4378posts)
12/12/2004 11:03:00 PM
First of all. This isn't Fox News' opinion. It's the opinion of a columnist. Learn the difference between a news story and an editorial.

quote:

DOH DOH DOH!!!! STUPID AMERICANS!!!


You say it's wrong for Fox News to lump in all Dutch people, yet the first thing out of your mouth is you lumping all Americans in with Fox News. Way to discredit yourself so quickly.

quote:

Why talking sh¡t about my country (all LIES LIES LIES), while they don't even know their own country!


Ok so Fox News "talks sh1t" about your country, and you do the same to them. How can you be so insulted when you are every bit as prepared to commit the same sin you descry in someone else?

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
12/13/2004 1:19:00 AM
^ oh okay - so uhm... who started it?

WHO CARES?

And you're sadly mistaken to suggest that it's the newswriter's opinion and not the opinion of fox news. There is no seperation of news or editorial at fox, it all comes down from the top - ruport murdoch and friends. you thought conrad black was bad in his editorial medling.. ha!

Lastly, 50 million people voted for the bullsh*t that fox news supported, so yeah, i'd say that he's pretty spot on for lumping a large cross section of the red states in with these opinions. If you don't beleive me, try going to kansas and listening to the way people talk..

DeeCeeYuuk
DeeCeeYuuk Promoter (1408posts)
12/13/2004 11:36:00 AM
I just said "stupid Americans" and you see it as a threat to all Americans? Just one opinion from me and you already see it as a problem, while this columnist says a bunch of crap about my country. Who's turning words? Not me. But yeah, like I care.

I know this is Fox news, but there are a group of people out there on the web that only reads/listens/sees Fox news which they will eventually believe in the stupid things he sais. Then maybe these small group of people pass it onto other people etc. etc. and then eventually everyone will believe that Dutch people are nazi's/baby killers and stuff.

Do Dutch people really smoke pot all over the place all the time?
No, I live in a small town and almost no one here smokes pot/use other drugs or so whatever. But if you go to a city like Rotterdam or Amsterdam, then you seriously smell the air of weed at most parts in town.
At most places, smoking pot and drugs use is still illegal here in Holland. If you get caught by the police, you have to pay a a big fine for that.

I was in Vancouver last summer - did a little research and as what I have seen. Vancouver's police don't seem much to care about those who smoke pot or use other drugs on the streets. I remember the first day when I was in Canada, which was on "Canada Day" - sitting on a couch outside at night on Granville St. with this 'friend' (ugh,,, 'friend' oh God,,, more like an asshole) of mine. There were these 2 girls sitting on the ground making paintings on cardboards - they said some weird things and they thought they were butterflies. Three words: they were high. Okay, so a bunch of guys came around the corner and saw those girls getting high and stuff. They knew they had weed with them, so they start dealing drugs. Police came by and they did NOTHING! I was like: "WTF???". If it was in Holland, they will get a big punishment for that. I dunno,,, but I guess that it ain't such a big deal using/dealing drugs in Canada as it is in Holland.

But there is one part to use drugs as a legal object. If a person has some kind of disease or is in much pain - with a description from your doctor; it's legal to use it.

Ever see a PSV Eindhoven game?
Yay! They're my fav soccer team! big grin

StarckTruth
StarckTruth Member (12396posts)
12/13/2004 2:39:00 PM
One of my afvurite activities while strolling around downtown Vancouver is having a toke on the courthouse roof. big grin

SugarRae
SugarRae Nightlife Industry (1193posts)
12/14/2004 1:18:00 PM
I think that the slack drugs laws are more in BC than in Canada as a whole.

Vancouver is the worst of all. Cops have too much to worry about to bother some random girls with weed.

That article is atrocious indeed.

Typical Fox TV behavior to use the word Nazi to their advantage while ostricizing an entire country.
I saw Dutch footage from when the Nazi's occupation of Holland finally ended. The Dutch people got all women that were seen with German men during their occupation and cut off their hair, carved swastikas into their foreheads, and beat them as they ran screaming thru the streets.

Respect.

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