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DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 6:42:00 PM
it starts to make sense tho... you're true believers, and that's why this thread is about israel for you

the zog conspiracy is real to you... you really do believe in the united states of israel blank stare

of course, anyone to try to tell you otherwise must be a brainwashed dupe...

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/4/2005 7:26:00 PM
dickss.. i showed you the close ties between the US government and Israel.

the ties are not theories, they are reality. if you can prove what i've written to be theories, then your point would hold credibility.

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truthmonkey, you broke the internet.

like i said, you have the attention span of a guppy so i will post what i wrote, again:

the original poster was trying to show the US as a caring nation who really really really cares about human rights issues and justice around the world but other evil nations, like china, block this caring and compassionate nation from helping the unfortunate people.

i simply showed that this is not true by recalling that the US has pulled what china has done recently many times; example: US, the only country to veto hundreds of UN resolutions condemning israel's brutal acts towards the palestinians.

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 7:43:00 PM
you going from showing close ties to 'OMG the united states of israel' is zog conspiracy theory pure and simple

there's no point in arguing against your conspiracy theories as there's no proof that would satisfy your paranoid delusions... anything I would offer would either be dismissed as some cover-up, or show how 'brainwashed by propoganda' I am

I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just trying to point out that it's hard to take you seriously when you're spinning these zog conspiracy yarns

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/4/2005 7:46:00 PM
what a fantastic tale you weave in demonstrating the factual nature of this zog conspiracy


How many UN resolutions that chastize israel for human rights reasons has the United States veto'd?

This isn't a partisan comment DickSS. The United States protects Israel and defends it through thick and thin. So? This is factual. not a conspiracy, stop trying to suggest it is. You sound like shiftwsitch.

Truthmorales - okay fine, say mythos is a racist. Let's just for one moment ignore this distraction, you're right BACK TO THE TOPIC

BIRT: USA is the messiah and defender of human rights in Sudan

THEN: Explain the OTHER US backing of human rights violators - including china, indonesia, and yes - even israel. This isn't a muslim thing (as you try so hard to frame it) - after all, suharto was muslim. This is a money thing. Simple as that.
Where it's convenient, the United States acts like the boy scout.

Is calling genocide a spade not commendable? No ofcourse it is.

But please, sell the steak, not the sizzle.

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 7:58:00 PM
The United States protects Israel and defends it through thick and thin. So? This is factual.

it's like I explained to mythos

you take some fact, and then without any proof, you leap to the conclusion that the US government acts as it does because it is under israeli control (united states of israel)

that's zog conspiracy theory

I'm just calling it what it is blank stare

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/4/2005 8:05:00 PM
I didn't say the United States is controlled by Israel.

Where did I say this?

You have problems with reading.

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 8:06:00 PM
it's all over your united states of israel comment

all over it

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/4/2005 8:10:00 PM
no facts? i listed facts and you call the facts conspiracy theories. why?

united states of israel is just a play on word to describe the close relationship between the two countries.

and stop with the zog shxt.

fxck man, you overuse phrases and words way too much and it makes you even more annoying.

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 8:12:00 PM
look, you can try to weasel your way out of that, but the 'united states of israel' comment has no place in serious discussion because it can only lead to just another zog rant

sageb1
sageb1 Member (12179posts)
2/4/2005 8:30:00 PM
let's not forget that Hitler personally thanked Henry Ford for his fascist rants.

genocide is a side-effect of eugenics, a home-grown American product.

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/4/2005 8:33:00 PM
you have a point dickss.

although i didn't originally make the "united state of israel" comment, i did defend the use of it.

it shouldn't be used.

back to the close relationship between israel and the US and the israeli interest and influence in the US government.

do you believe that it's a conspiracy theory?

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/4/2005 8:34:00 PM
dickSS - you're pogroming on the words 'united states of israel'? is that what these past 2 pages of diatribes by you about bullsh*t conspiracy theories is about?

Okay to appease your simple mind I'll take those words back, and replace them with: "the alliance with the US and Israel".

Back to the issue at hand - which had nothing to do with Israel or 'zog' or your mental instability. Israel was used - along with China, Indonesia, and other countries, to demonstrate that US foreign policy in calling out human rights abuses is not always based on altruism. And, clearly - though it's good to call out the genocide, when one lacks the credibility to call it out, it spoils the moment.
and THAT was the point that both mythos and I where trying to make.

Got that guppies?

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 8:52:00 PM
that's good that you and mythos have finally learned how to back down from ridiculous statements

now, just try not to make them in the future, and things will flow much smoother in here

just you watch smile

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/4/2005 9:03:00 PM
are you here to learn and share ideas or do you enjoy being mentally and emotionally raped?

are you some kind of a masochist?

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 9:13:00 PM
^ look

for you, it's as though israel is somehow implicated in every US issue (as we've seen is this thread)

engineerf feeds off of this, and posts his 'united states of israel' comment

I laugh at him a little bit

you provide a passionate argument in defense

before you know it, the two of you are defending the zog hypothesis smile

I didn't lead you there... you guys just walked right into it

so I mean really, I think it's great that you've shown some maturity and decided to back down from your ridiculous statements rather than defend them until the bitter end

I think you deserve some praise for this

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/4/2005 9:14:00 PM
reading comprehension no

I like your reconstruction of a 2 page thread dickbreath. have you taken your medicine today?

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/4/2005 9:25:00 PM
^ 0\/\//\/3/) by z0g

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/4/2005 9:57:00 PM
^ La Senza

TruthMorales
TruthMorales Member (321posts)
2/5/2005 12:56:00 AM
No no no mythos. Don't make yourself to be some kind of rational agent hear. The post was about a human rights crisis that China is blocking and you used it as a n excuse to go on your one tirade yet again: Israel.

Or should I remind you that some of your english students in Japan complained that all you wanted to talk about was Israel.

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/5/2005 1:03:00 AM
^ dense

you accuse the guy of tslking about israel all the time....but your profile says "israel for free"

and YOU turn every post into "poor poor israel, islam sucks"

AND to top things off, not only are you not jewish, you don't even know the history of the jewish people in the middle east, and when presented a history lesson on the middle east, you turn rabid and immediately deny historical facts.

So...yeah you're right, mythos brought up israel. But I'm guessing you have bigger issues to solve - like the tin foil wrapped around your gentile head.

engineerf
engineerf Member (6636posts)
2/5/2005 2:20:00 AM

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