i get so perplexed when i see an intelligent male, with a fantastic warm personality and amazing humour lower themselves when they go out with someone who is low in the stakes of even possessing a brain...

yes the partner they choose may be good looking but are people that shallow that they would choose someone only asthetically pleasing and lose out on getting to knwo someone who presents the full package.....

I have been so disappointed by males friends who have started realtionships with girls who are good looking but present them selves as the most moronic, superficial and boring creatures ever, and to be honest after getting to know their personality their looks go down the drain anyway.....


this topic also applies for fabulous girls who end up with a terrible guy companion...

thoughts people?

Some guys like the simple girl who wont challenge their own intelligence....

Look at Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey.... Now you can't tell me he is with her for her intelligence....

^i have substance hahaha and lots of modesty

nah totally agree with what you are saying entice, its sad really... maybe there is a side to these girls that only your guys friends see when they are alone... if not, well then you can only hope that your friends grow up a little and realise looks aren't everything...

i think there is also a big problem with shallowness in that a lot of guys also want a "good girl"... disregarding decent chicks as suitable girlfriends, simply cause they like to go out clubbing etc...

too far off track...???

It isn't about finding the 'perfect' person, the 'perfect' looks etc. It's all about seeing an imperfect person 'perfectly' ; And this more or less derives from their inner beauty.

We shouldn't condense what we like physically onto a shopping list.. It's amazing how I can be attracted to someone, without them being idealistically attractive, and thinking someone is attractive, without actually being 'attracted' to them.

Undress me with your words, any day...

i agree Madam.....
flaws and imperfections is a person is what makes them perfect to you......

you can undress me with your words any day.....
you possess the best vocab here..........

and Mr.D nick lachey is a moron....
moron goes for moron

and new black ditzy and dumb can be cute, I am one to be a little silly and lost at times, but thats not my persona at all times....

im talking girls who are just thick and stupid and boring always and maybe aj_13 is right.
they could be putting this facade on and they are different behind closed doors but i doubt it......

oh Matza..

you will find the perfect package one day...

So Entice your saying that Nick Lachey is a moron, so is it Jessica who has lowered her standards then.....

I think you just have to accept that not everyone needs intellectual stimulation in a relationship to be satisfied.

mr D, exactly not eveyone needs intellectual stimulation,

but when a person IS intelligent and as a whole is a fantastic person.

why would they persue somethign that is the oppisite of them?

OK Entice you have read me like a book!...


I finally had the courage to leave her...


I am waiting for your advancement...

Even if you are intelligent, the fact remains you may not need an intelligent partner…. You may be the type of person that works in a career that is so mentally demanding, and at the end of the day all you want to do is go home, to your gorgeous partner……

Entice, you are obviously an intelligent girl to suggest such a topic… so are you implying that if you found a simple guy, who’s age was higher than his IQ, but he made you feel amazing, and was adorable in so many way, you simply wouldn’t go out with him because of his intelligence or lack or it….

What a load of sh**it…… I tell you if a girl was absolutely gorgeous, and she made me feel good, who cares how smart she is…..

OK now bad vibe, and rudeness and all the above is a different story.... Totally agree with you on that....

Hate girls who carry attitiude, and it does often make you wonder what their partner see in them.....

But that doesn't necessarily coincide with intelligence.

personally Mr.D,

i would want a guy that adores evey aspect of me and my persona
so therefore that would make me feel good,

but it would bore me If he had no sense of direction
and could not stimulate me mentally...

Dont get me wrong I have been in the past with good looking nice guys but with no intelligence or substance and they lost out when they didnt want to get to know my personality anyway as they probably didnt see it worthwhile, and this disheartens me......

and at the end of the day Mr.D not everyone needs an intelligent partner and is satisfied by feelign loved and appreciated...

btu this topic is for people who do have that need and deserve it and lower themselves by going for rubbish.......

Valynt...

play your cards right and the advancement will come soon