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the_bikerguy Member	1/7/2007 10:36:00 PM On the news http://news.independent.c...e_east/article2132568.ece ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news.independent.co.uk "A 19-year-old girl sentenced to death by hanging in Iran last year is to be retried on Wednesday after a Canadian singer launched an international campaign to save her. Nazanin Fatehi was sentenced to death a year ago, on 3 January 2006, after admitting having stabbed to death one of three men who tried to rape her and a 16-year-old relative. She was 17 at the time. The pop singer and former Miss Canada Nazanin Afshin-Jam learnt of her case and has since become the figurehead of the campaign to have her freed. "The injustice of the story horrified me," said Ms Afshin-Jam, the runner-up to the 2003 Miss World title who left Iran when she was two. "I couldn't believe that a victim of attempted rape was being charged as a criminal." According to the Iranian daily newspaper Etemaad, Ms Fatehi and her niece were in a park in Karaj, just outside of Tehran, with their boyfriends when they were approached by three men. The boys fled after the men pushed the girls to the floor. Ms Fatehi then drew a knife and stabbed one man in the arm and another in the chest, killing him. If she had allowed the men to rape her and her niece, the girls would have been subjected to 100 lashes under Iranian laws on chastity. If they had been married at the time they were raped they would likely have been found guilty of adultery and sentenced to death by stoning. Ms Afshin-Jam, said: "Nazanin didn't have an option, she didn't have a voice so I was going to try and be that voice for her."

the_bikerguy Member	1/7/2007 10:41:00 PM "Since she took up the case last year, 232,492 signatures have been delivered to the Iranian government, and a trust fund set up which has enabled Ms Fatehi to have access to one of the best lawyers in the country. The young woman's sentence was stayed in June last year and a retrial ordered. The first stage of this was held last August, and the case continues on Wednesday. If it upholds the first verdict, it will need to be approved formally by Iran's Supreme Court. Under Iranian law, self-defence is a valid defence in a murder trial, but its application depends largely on the circumstances. Negar Azmudeh, a Canadian lawyer who has previously spoken out on Ms Fatehi's case, said that the fact that she and her niece were in a park in the evening may have some bearing on whether the defence is considered valid. Ms Azmudeh cited a case where a woman was prosecuted for injuring her boss as he tried to rape her at work: "Because she had showed up at work on a Friday [a weekend day in Iran] they could not claim 'self-defence' because her presence at the office on a Friday when she knew the boss was there constituted her 'invitation' to be raped." Iran is a signatory to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the Charter of the Rights of the Child, which prohibit the execution of anyone under 18. But there are records of 18 executions of child offenders in Iran since 1990. In 2005 alone, at least eight executions of children were recorded. Iranian authorities have for the past four years been considering a law prohibiting the death penalty for offenders under 18. A recent BBC documentary revealed how on 15 August 2004 Atefeh Rajabi, 16, was hanged in Neka, about 100 miles from Tehran, for "engaging in acts incompatible with chastity". Her age given in court documents was 22. Recent speeches by a judiciary spokesman suggest that the new law would only cover crimes that are not qisas, covered by the law of retaliation, which applies in murder cases, as this is considered to be a private, rather than a state matter. Under this arrangement, the court can allow the death sentence to be commuted if the relatives of the victim allow the accused to pay them dieh, a financial compensation, literally "blood money". Under Iranian law, the value of a man's life is twice as great as that of a woman. "A man who had killed a woman could not get the death penalty unless the victim's family paid him a female person's worth of dieh," Ms Azmdeh said. "This way, the victim's life plus the amount of dieh, would be equal to a full person, ie, a man's life." I hope they find the girl innocent of all charges and the Iranian government will be held accountable for their true nature. Enough bull**** already.
egyptianpride72 Venue Owner	1/7/2007 10:59:00 PM that's so messed up. she had no other choice. and no matter what she did, she's still found guilty of something! It's like they make the laws so that there's no way around it and no matter what, the female will be punished. Men in these countries can do no wrong. Being arabic myself, I've been subjected to the bull**** that the man has the power and women are always at fault, and should at all times be docile. Not only is a woman taught to think of men as Kings most importantly her father, brothers and husband.. but they are taught to fear them as well. It's complete crap and I'm so thankful to be living in Canada. Egypt isnt anywhere near as bad as Iran when it comes to this. But even at this mild form of man power, when I go to Egypt for a visit (usually 3 weeks) I get so sick of it and of how controlling my uncles and cousins are. my prayers are with this girl and every other girl in that country who is wrongly accused.
hasooonah Member	1/8/2007 9:52:00 AM this is dumb ! she should be sent home. She defended herself against the criminal rapists.. evil devilsh peple Too bad to hear this piece of news
LundChuss Nightlife Industry	1/8/2007 10:08:00 AM http://www.bodog.tv/ check out the documentry on this case
the_bikerguy Member	1/8/2007 4:31:00 PM It's hard to keep my composure while hearing this kinda stuff coming out of any where in the world... it's ridiculous why the Iranian government is not held accountable for this kind of human rights violations.
cynic_ Member	1/8/2007 5:24:00 PM what makes this all the more disturbing is we have people on this forum like mythos and trainspotter who repeatedly excuse, defend and flat out deny these atrocities taking place in iran. i'm not sure if it's out of nationalistic pride. or if they just think women deserve to be treated this way.
tekkamaki Raver	1/8/2007 5:40:00 PM i'd like to see proof of that statement^
cynic_ Member	1/8/2007 6:03:00 PM here's 11 pages of them denying nazanin was defending herself against rapists. they also tried to deny that sharia law requires 4 male witnesses to prove rape. and that in iran a woman can be sentenced to death for adultery if she reports a rape and cannot provide 4 male witnesses to prove it. they also denied another girl was sentenced to death for this very reason despite bbc reports and a well-researched documentary saying exactly that. quote: http://clubvibes.com/foru...age=1&topic_id=428291
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:04:00 PM shut the fu.k up Cynic you lying sack of sht. You're a f.ukking lying racist and you should throw yourself in a blender head first.
the_bikerguy Member	1/8/2007 8:14:00 PM Trainspotter, set the record straight once and for all: Does the above news article have any inacurate facts? If so, can you provide evidence? Otherwise, it's just your word against a London newspaper's.
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:19:00 PM The news article that cynic the liar is referring to is the bbc one about a girl named Atafeh who was executed for crimes against chastity. It said that she was raped, which in England would be technically true since she was below the British age of consent when she had sex with the man, but which Cynic insists means that there was forced penetration, something which I've seen no one claim.
DickSS Promo Model	1/8/2007 8:23:00 PM ^
_stranger_ Dancer	1/8/2007 8:23:00 PM I'm not sure I understand the difference it makes if she was executed for being raped or executed for having consentual sex out of wedlock.
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:24:00 PM I don't either, but Cynic is jumping on my opinion that there's no reason to believe Atafeh was raped to claim "I defend rapists and the discriminatory laws of Iran" or some other such nonsense.
_stranger_ Dancer	1/8/2007 8:25:00 PM what exactly are you defending?
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:28:00 PM I'm not sure. The truth?
DickSS Promo Model	1/8/2007 8:30:00 PM 'there's no reason to believe that the rape was a rape' is called denial
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:36:00 PM anyway, and people like Cynic jump on this point and want claim it was rape because they know I'll respond and say "that's a lie", and then they can say I defend rapists or something.
_stranger_ Dancer	1/8/2007 8:53:00 PM I'm not sure. It does appear that you're defending the execution of a child.
trainspotter10 Member	1/8/2007 8:54:00 PM How so? Maybe you're projecting you're preconceived biases against muslims on to me since you grew up in Yugoslavia during the civil war when the Serbs fought and bitterly hated the Bosnian muslims.. ? Have I ever said I defended her execution? Cynic the liar has not once asked me if I defend her execution because he knows what the answer will be.