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Chaos
Chaos Member (8950posts)
2/6/2007 9:10:00 AM
^ Considering your lack of empathy, or any redeeming qualities, that one may associate with being a human, i'm not all to untogether suprised by that statement.

londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
2/6/2007 10:51:00 AM
oh im not a bleeding heart liberal..boohoo.. heart

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 11:29:00 AM
tantaloser needs to go back to popping amphetamines

londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
2/6/2007 11:46:00 AM

"...the heart of the Kyoto Protocol, the global climate agreement - that climate is one of the most complex systems known, yet that we can manage it by trying to control a small set of factors, namely greenhouse gas emissions. Scientifically, this is not mere uncertainty: it is a lie."

Professor Stott told BBC News Online: "The problem with a chaotic coupled non-linear system as complex as climate is that you can no more predict successfully the outcome of doing something as of not doing something. Kyoto will not halt climate change. Full stop."

- Philip Stott, emeritus professor of biogeography at the University of London.



DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 11:58:00 AM
but... but... the science is solid!

wave after wave of windbags like tantaloser, who have absolutely *zero* background in *any* sort of science assure us of this

I mean, al gore? come on!

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/6/2007 12:06:00 PM
yeah! al gore? come on!

he has no background and no business in talking about the environment! come on!

While a Representative, Gore co-sponsored hearings on toxic waste in 1978-79, and hearings on global warming in the 1980s.[44] While a senator working on his book Earth in the Balance, Gore had traveled around the world on numerous fact-finding missions. During Gore's tenure as Vice President, he was a proponent for environmental protection. On Earth Day 1994, Gore launched the worldwide GLOBE program, an innovative hands-on, school-based education and science activity that made extensive use of the Internet to increase student awareness of their environment and contribute research data for scientists.

In the late 1990s, Gore strongly pushed for the passage of the Kyoto Treaty, which called for reduction in greenhouse gas emissions


_sketchy_
_sketchy_ Member (12691posts)
2/6/2007 12:06:00 PM

Apparently simpletons like londonskew and Dick.leSS are not impressed by trapped CO² molecules in the ice caps pointing to CO² concentrations over the past thousands of years.









































and it's even more improbable they understand the CO² concentrations being correlated to trapped O² isotopes in the ice caps illustrating temperatures over the past thousands of years.



















































Maybe they are just too dumb to understand and too proud to admit it heart

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 12:12:00 PM
mythos is an inbred retard

why does he think that I'd take anything he says seriously?

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 12:13:00 PM
I mean really!

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/6/2007 12:24:00 PM
I mean, al gore? come on!

mythos
mythos Member (24527posts)
2/6/2007 12:30:00 PM
hahaha

i'm laughing at my own post with the picture of dickss skiing

hehe.. thanx dickss wink

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 12:31:00 PM
yeah, al gore... bachelor of arts degree in government from harvard

or in other words, al gore... windbag with absolutely *zero* background in *any* science

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 12:33:00 PM
but... but... the science is solid!

al gore says so!

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 12:34:00 PM
inbred retards like mythos agree!

the science is solid!

londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
2/6/2007 12:37:00 PM
are not impressed by trapped CO² molecules in the ice caps pointing to CO² concentrations over the past thousands of years.

you're right - i'm not impressed. why should i be?
heart

londonkev
londonkev Member (8774posts)
2/6/2007 12:45:00 PM
In thus considering the seven greatest temperature transitions of the past half-million years - three glacial terminations and four glacial inceptions - we note that increases and decreases in atmospheric CO2 concentration not only did not precede the changes in air temperature, they followed them, and by hundreds to thousands of years! There were also long periods of time when atmospheric CO2 remained unchanged, while air temperature dropped, as well as times when the air's CO2 content dropped, while air temperature remained unchanged or actually rose. Hence, the climate history of the past half-million years provides absolutely no evidence to suggest that the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 concentration will lead to significant global warming.

- C. D. Idso and K. E. Idso
Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change


Bijou_7
Bijou_7 Member (8454posts)
2/6/2007 1:16:00 PM
I was most amazed at the ice shelves breaking off and melting. One the size of 11,000 football fields in 2005. http://www.cbc.ca/technol...elfcollapse-20061228.html . I can't imagine how polarbears could be drowning because they have to swim farther out for food, but they are, and that's ridiculous.

Anyone who was remotely interested in An Inconvenient Truth should watch Who Killed the Electric Car too.

Bijou_7
Bijou_7 Member (8454posts)
2/6/2007 1:21:00 PM
Kids in the seventh largest school district in Seattle won't get to see An Inconvenient Truth because a parent had it banned.

"No you will not teach or show that propagandist Al Gore video to my child, blaming our nation -- the greatest nation ever to exist on this planet -- for global warming," Hardiman wrote in an e-mail to the Federal Way School Board. The 43-year-old computer consultant is an evangelical Christian who says he believes that a warming planet is "one of the signs" of Jesus Christ's imminent return for Judgment Day.

http://www.progressivemaj...ty.org/blog/?storyId=3097

Maybe that was Justify's dad. blush

DickSS
DickSS Promo Model (16767posts)
2/6/2007 1:41:00 PM
oh those dreaded christians...

Shango
Shango DJ/Artist (6358posts)
2/6/2007 1:42:00 PM
I was going to go through all of Justify's links to show how their authors and sponsors are full of crap, but Chaos took care of that.

I am a particular fan of Frederick Seitz who has been cited on numerous papers in the past, yet upon investigation has been found a liar. His organization is funded by Exxon, and also does "scientific" studies to debunk the "myth" that smoking leads to lung cancer.

I also notice that some of the other websites throw around statistics, yet do not cite where those stats came from. Real good reporting there...



Shango
Shango DJ/Artist (6358posts)
2/6/2007 1:53:00 PM
climate is one of the most complex systems known, yet that we can manage it by trying to control a small set of factors, namely greenhouse gas emissions. Scientifically, this is not mere uncertainty: it is a lie.

I actually agree with this. It is very difficult to next week's weather. There have also been global warmings and coolings in the past, there is no doubt about it.

Is this an excuse to continue on an unsustainable course when there is a chance to actually help? Would forcing companies to only manufacture energy efficient products and ban older inefficient items really destroy our economies?!?!

The right seem to be fighting this as they do many arguments attempting to bring them to the middle. They refuse to change their minds regardless of any evidence brought to the table. I sometimes wonder about their childhood....

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