Lets get back on topic....

I think the major thing to consider is empathy. Imagine your are the child being exploited...

When I was a pre teen I posed for some perv who did sculpture. I now realize that having me pose nude at that age was pretty gross. He was photographing me alot and now I realize it was jerk off material.

Did it damage me? I dont think so.

At 15 I was molested by 2 men, different ones. I was living on the streets and slept where I could and woke up with a dudes hand on my crotch in both cases. Did it wound me emotionally? No. Would systematic abuse by a parent have hurt me more? Definitely. Not sure what I am driving at, other than many so called forms of exploitation such as taking erotic photos of underage models do minimal damage. And that physical exploitation by someone who is trusted can do maximal damage.

We live in a sex phobic culture. There are news stories abound of rape, molestation, AIDS and STDs. ...sex is dangerous, shameful and icky, something to hide away in the dark.

Violence OTOH is glorified to almost pornographic levels. It is more acceptable in North American culture to expose kids to violent films, games and television programs than it is to foster in them a healthy sexuality. I remember the sex ed classes in Jr. High focused primarily on unwanted pregnancy, diseases, rape, abstinence etc..sex is evil and therefore is best avoided. Our culture is disturbed at a deep level.

^I wonder if they showed that video at Genarlow Wilson's school?

Yes indeed.... I'll take FFN yogurt commercials over bleeding corpses any day!

The above posts kind of point to something...that we villify sexuality here far too much.

Statistics
Removed from the article, because they are meaningless without context:

250,000-500,000 pedophiles reside in the United States. - Source: U.S. Department of Justice
What definition of pedophilia do they use? **Moon light shadow 10:51, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Convicted child molesters who abused girls had an average of 52 victims each. Men who molested boys had an astonishing average of 150 victims. - Source: In a study funded by the National Institute of Mental Health Dr. Gene G. Abel, Emory University
The typical child sex offender molests an average of 60 to 117 children, most of who do not report the offense. - Source: The National Institute of Mental Health, 1988
What is the percentage of exhibitionists? I guess, that it is very high, because other offenders can be much easier found and arrested and have fewer victims. **Moon light shadow 10:51, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Approximately 95% of teenage prostitutes have been sexually abused. - Source: CT Center for Prevention of Child Abuse, 1992
This does not mean, that the sexual abuse (maybe just being sexually active at a young age), made them become teenage prostitutes. Other studies show that, sexually abused children often suffer from family disfunction, which statistically is a better explaination for their problems. How many of the teenage prostitutes were younger than 18 and therefore sexually abused? **Moon light shadow 10:51, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It is estimated that children with disabilities are 4 to 10 times more vulnerable to sexual abuse than their non-disabled peers. - Source: National Resource Center on Child Sexual Abuse 1992
How many of the offenders where their peers? Did the disability make masturbation hard/impossible? **Moon light shadow 10:51, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Abuse or neglected children are 67 times more likely to be arrested between ages 9-12 then those who aren’t. - # Victimized children had IQ’s 13 points below the general average of 100, as well as severely depressed reading abilities. - Source: The National Institute for Justice, 1991 Cathy Spatz Widom

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WOW ! Approximately 15% of men in US, Canada and Europe are pedophile!

what a primitive culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...lk:Sexual_abuse/Archive-1

The harem of the Turkish Great Sultan, which was in the Topkapı Palace serraglio, typically housed several hundred - at times over a thousand - women including wives. It also housed the Sultan's mother, daughters and other female relatives, as well as eunuchs and slave girls to serve the aforementioned women. During the later periods, the sons of the Sultan also lived in the Harem until they were sixteen, when it might be considered appropriate for them to appear in the public and administrative areas of the palace. The Topkapı Harem was, in some senses, merely the private living quarters of the Sultan and his family, within the palace complex.

It is claimed that harems existed in Persia under the Ancient Achaemenids and later Iranian dynasties (The Sassanid Chosroes II reportedly had a harem of 3,000 wives, as well as 12,000 female slaves) and lasted well into the Qajar dynasty. The women of the royal harem played important though underreported roles in Iranian history, especially during the Iranian Constitutional Revolution. However, this claim is disputed by some Persian historians.[1]

Hasonah..
My Arab forefathers, the Fatimids, contributed largely to knowledge and medicine in the past, and their contribution to science had helped the Europeans and the Americans build their countries and develop all aspects of life there.

No one is disagreeing with you here.


But dear god dont hold out middle eastern culture as a model for how to treat women...

^If you were born with an overwhelming sexual attraction to small children, would you voluntarily line up at the doctor's to have your clitoris snipped off? Just curious.

^Why get so riled when all I ask from you is some empathy? Try to imagine you are in the position of the potential pedophile. Does that overtax your imagination?

As for your blanket statement that the only thing holding men back from raping every woman in sight is "will power," well now, that is pretty damned ignorant.

You should read this thread from the start. All the points you make have already been addressed.