The inability to comprehend another's suffering is not a strength, meggs


as opposed to the suffering of a child's? sorry.

Hey I think Brad pitt is cute! and oh my, so many celebrities are so hot on magazines and that guy over there is dating another women - but I want him!

oh shucks, I guess I have to deal with it.

Meggs, kindly take your illogical ranting elsewhere.

Meggs, kindly take your illogical ranting elsewhere

It isn't illogical it is parallel.

Oh come on, Archon. Show me a case of anyone knocking on a doctor's door and saying, gee doc, I've got these urges, maybe you can help me with them.


They have that choice.

I think what it highlights is that is that what we now consider to be pedophilia has been an accepted practise on some levels not that long ago. Because we've become more attuned to the damage and repercussions it can have on child psychological development we've shifted our values and morality on this subject.

But what I am getting at is that instead of reconizing the problems of this behaviour and making appropriate treatments and education , we simply outright vilified it and attempted to sweep it under the carpet. It obviously exists and probably at higher levels than ever and is not going away.

My un-educated view on the subject is that pedophilia is not something we are born with, it arises from a psychological disturbance of the self from a multitude of various life factors. I think treating pedophilia is a difficult thing because it becomes very case specific. Many pedophiles do have high levels of sociopathic tendencies and do not experience guilt or remorse, hence treatment becomes next to impossible. Many experience mood disorders which prevent them from seeking treatment in the first place, anxiety, depression, phobias.

Like Bijou mentioned we've made access very difficult for individuals that want to get treatment, and when they do all sorts of bells and whistles screaming freak sound off in the process.

thats was for u juggster!

well you're all over the map with whatever points it is you are trying to make.

pedophilia is not compared to homosexuality. A pedophile can be hmosexual or heterosexual. many pedophiles have been sexually abused as children themselves. Women are most likely not to be a pedophile and nature would generally kill off any intruder to their offspring.

Meggs,

You said you are not capable of having empathy for offenders/would be offenders, because your sympathies lie with the victims.

You acknoledge that a lot of offenders/would be offenders were once victims themselves.

Ergo, how can you not have empathy for the majority of offenders/would be offenders considering they were once victims themselves?

One can empathize with another's situation without validating it as acceptable.

Not to mention that Tantalus' comparison between the possible parallels between development of homosexuality and pedophilia wasn't meant to say that those two preferences themselves are linked. (am I wrong there?)

Ergo, how can you not have empathy for the majority of offenders/would be offenders considering they were once victims themselves?

ahh I see what you mean. I have sympathy for the child who is chosen by another to be sexually abused. I therefore can understand the traumatic events that occur psychologically to reenact the behavior they have had on themselves onto others to regain some sort of "self" - as a mean of possible revenge - however I understand the need to "heal" from their trauma - but I have no empathy of them doing it back to others , in turn possibly creating another individual to become predatory later in life.