i don't know how people like jonspade can show any respect for baboons like bobbybass. mccain's policies are bush's policies. bush's policies have fuccked the U.S. many times over. someone who is not willing to accept this simple reality, deserves no respect.

Hey Bobby,

I see you're a fan of Beck. I was watching Ben Stein on his show last night talking about the exact same thing. The only problem with that argument is that while you might have shares in some of those companies through mutual or retirement funds (I personally do not invest in such things) the vast majority of the powerhouse corporations only have a small portion of their companies in the hands of the common man.

I'll use the Waltons as an example as they are a perfect example of the problems with our capitalist society today. They own controlling interest in Walmart. There are a few hundred executives running this corporation who also have a substantial number of shares in this corporation. Finally, you and the common man have a watered down interest in this company through whatever mutual plan you might be on.

The Waltons currently have a worth of about a 100 billion dollars. There are a handful of families and entrepreneurs that own what is estimated to be 90% of the world's wealth or, to put things into perspective - around 3% of the population.

When a company like this moves into a small town and has the kind of power they do to do to as they wish, regardless of what kind of devestation they have on "small" business - the kind you refer to that helps with the growth of the economy, the people of that town take a back seat.

A good read: http://larouchepub.com/other/2004/3103waltons.html

Yes, Hillary and Obama also feed from the corporate trough to perpetuate their campaigns. I don't think either of them try to hide it however and McCain has indicated that maybe he doesn't play that game and that he wants to see change.

At the end of the day, my argument is quite simple. Take the corporate sector out of politics. Cap the campaign contributions so that only indiduals can donate - make it so that a corporation can't be recognized as human and lastly, have true separation of church and state. I think it's about time that religious organizations ante'd up with tax dollars and got their noses out of the political process.

I'm all for capitialism - it does work. I just want to see something called real democracy with proportional representation. I have no interest in shutting down big business, I just want them to stick to what they know - making money and let the people run the country. McCain is not the man to make this happen, he is just another puppet who in his twilight years is looking for some glory and a legacy to leave his family. It's quite sad.

As for the film the corporation, you should watch it. It's an eye opener to say the least.

the conservative movement has been hi-jacked, and blind sheep are led to the slaughter without a clue

forgive them, for they know not what they do

Religious groups should not be able to back either a party or a candidate - if the do they should have their tax free status reversed. As soon as they publicly back a candidate or even a party they become a Political Action Committee which should be taxed to the fullest.

Americans are conservative by nature

except in/on:

Vegas,
HBO
MTV
New Orleans
Atlantic City
New York
Miami
San Diego
California in General
Seattle,
Boston

pretty much anywhere else that people gamble, or invest in speculative stocks where being conservative isn't demonstrated.

I like Mcain, always have...too bad the GOP is so out of touch.

If I had to choose, I would pick Obama over Mcain.
Hillary is more of a Republican than Mcain IMHO.

I fear you are right Bobby, unless the election is suspended by Bush