MemberTeachers protest bullying video-game
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/4/2008 6:26:00 PM
So, teachers are all up in arms over a video game, like that's news. Anyway, their latest target is a satirical game called Bully. Opponents argue "sure it's just a game and that's great for people who can differentiate, for those who understand media literacy, but some kids don't and what they take away from it is the way to deal with their anger is to bully someone."

Full article, http://www.canada.com/van...-e8a5cdac2c25&k=10287

I've been playing Turok lately. I guess the teachers are on to something because I've learned that the way to deal with dinosaurs is to use my plasma rifle.
Esta
Esta
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3/4/2008 6:48:00 PM
North Americans have to be the worst parents.
InfectedRectum
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3/5/2008 9:51:00 AM
quote:
I've been playing Turok lately. I guess the teachers are on to something because I've learned that the way to deal with dinosaurs is to use my plasma rifle.


so you think that comparing your brain to a child's is valid? i mean... i think it's valid... in your case.
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/5/2008 10:59:00 AM
Did you read the article? The game is intended for kids 13 and up. I don't know where you were at intellectually when you were 13, but I knew the difference between games and reality.

Nice quip though. That seems to be all you're good for these days. No real substance to your posts.
InfectedRectum
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3/5/2008 2:55:00 PM
it's silly to think that we aren't effected by the images we expose ourselves to, be they real or fantasy.
Lo_Lo
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3/5/2008 3:18:00 PM
they could easily have put it for 17 and up and not hit the school age kids but that was their target.

there are varying levels of maturity with kids these days... some 13 year olds act like they are 8 cuz they've never gotten a spanking.


at one point The Power Rangers was a big thing cuz kids were imitating their moves and getting hurt... same goes for wrestling... there's always going to be something.

This game teaches bullies how to be meaner... it gets in their heads... shows them and rewards them for it (points/whatever). That part kind of irks me.

at least the power rangers was a good vs evil concept. retarded as it was.
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/5/2008 3:28:00 PM
at one point The Power Rangers was a big thing cuz kids were imitating their moves and getting hurt... same goes for wrestling... there's always going to be something.

Yup, there's always going to be something, so using a video game as a scapegoat for poor parenting is the flavour of the month I guess.

Parents need to take responsibility for their offspring and kids over the age of 12 need to be held accountable for their actions.

Blaming TV, movies, video games, etc is just passing the buck. It's endemic of the whole American attitude that everything is someone else's fault. It's a cop-out.
InfectedRectum
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3/5/2008 3:44:00 PM
Makers of sadistic media need to take responsibility for the influence they have on society and be held accountable for the the environment they are helping to create.

Blaming parents, children, etc is just passing the buck. It's endemic of the whole American attitude that everything is someone else's fault. It's a cop-out.
InfectedRectum
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3/5/2008 3:48:00 PM
i'm pretty sure that parents already know that they are responsible for their kids.

i'm pretty sure that kids already know that they are responsible for their actions.

i'm pretty sure that everyone is aware of these responsibilities since if they weren't civilization would collapse.

and i'm pretty sure that rockstar doesn't feel responsible for anything except making a profit for shareholders.

so what's the point of all this again?
Lo_Lo
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3/5/2008 3:59:00 PM
I have a 13 year old and I don't think he'll become a bully by playing the game... not that I really want him to have it.

I just asked him about it.

He hadn't heard of it for starters... he just looked it up and says, "oh. meh. it's made by the same people as Grand Theft Auto." he actually brought up a good point... he said it's probably on the news because that's how Grand Theft Auto sold so many... it's their thing.

marketing, mom.


haha.
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/5/2008 4:59:00 PM
Ah, another Diseasedanus response with the literary equivalent of "I know you are but what am I". You must've been king of the playground.

How appropriate that Lo_Lo's 13 year old makes the point that the teachers seem to be missing: teens don't take video games seriously.
Lo_Lo
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3/5/2008 5:00:00 PM
mine doesn't. some do. like I said above... it varies a lot now.




and I'd say mine cares about his video games... shoulda seen the scene when the younger sister erased his memory card.
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/5/2008 5:06:00 PM
Thankfully, we've got all sorts of legislation with sanctions for those who can't follow the rules.
Lo_Lo
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3/5/2008 5:28:00 PM
If the wrong kid wants to play this game at any age he/she will find a way to play it. Just like we found a way to watch rated R movies. That's why the teacher's want it off the shelves.

A lot of work has gone into anti-bullying campaigns in the last few years. If I worked that hard to improve the way children live every day life at school I would want the game removed too.

shmoove_cwiminal
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3/5/2008 5:50:00 PM
The 'wrong kid' is already the wrong kid though. It's got nothing to do with the game. He'll be a bully whether he plays this game or not. The game is just an excuse.

Paul Bernardo was a big fan of Bret Easton Ellis' American Psycho. Do you think, had he not read that book, that he wouldn't have raped dozens of women and killed 3 teenaged girls?

13 year old kids are capable of distinguishing between right and wrong. They may not appreciate the true consequences of their actions, but they know that pushing around little Billy isn't right. A video game isn't going to change that.
InfectedRectum
InfectedRectum
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3/6/2008 9:38:00 AM
shmoove_cwiminal, you are a moron. do you think that because a game isn't going to cause someone to rape and kill, it's ok? is that your moral benchmark? as long as it isn't raping or killing it is ok... lmao.

it is well known that violent television and movies have several negative effects. there hasn't been as much reaserch done on video games because they are newer but studies done by psychologists suggest that the effects on children's violent behavior may be even stronger...

but yeah, it isn't raping or killing so who gives cares right? tool..
pwincess
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3/6/2008 9:53:00 AM
The idea of the game to me is stupid, why promote bullying? Honestly its silly. And i dont like the idea of it. In our time kids our getting killed because of bullying or killing themselves because they can't handle it (all BEFOR the game though) I just dont see the need to put a game out there that aims only to school age children and hurting eachother. It happens enough in reality.

BUT GTA didnt make my brother go beat up hookers for there money and start gangwars.
The idea of the game is stupid, but if parents do blame the game for there kids actions thats no better..
Punjabulous
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3/6/2008 10:41:00 AM
bully sucks ass

worst game ever
shmoove_cwiminal
shmoove_cwiminal
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3/6/2008 11:00:00 AM
do you think that because a game isn't going to cause someone to rape and kill, it's ok? is that your moral benchmark? as long as it isn't raping or killing it is ok... lmao.

Huh?! Are you really that dense that you can't comprehend an abstract comparison? The raping and killing is to American Psycho as bullying is to Bully. The book isn't any more to blame for Bernardo's behaviour than the video game is to blame for the behaviour of gamers. I mean, short of me defining all the words, I really can't break it down any more than that. Am I giving you too much credit for your reading ability? I just thought you acted stupid so you could get away with some of your more outlandish points. I guess you are just stupid. Maybe I'm being too hard on you.

it is well known that violent television and movies have several negative effects. there hasn't been as much reaserch done on video games because they are newer but studies done by psychologists suggest that the effects on children's violent behavior may be even stronger...

What are these 'negative effects'? People's negative responses to a survey after viewing a film clip? Now that's some hard science. There's no definitive link between violent movies, tv, music and violent actions. If you've got that study, I'd love to read it, as I'm sure the APA would like to see it too.

In many 3rd world countries, violence is a way of life. Is that because they watched too much Power Rangers as children and played violent video games?

Yeah, probably.
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