IS CONSUMER GREED TO BLAME?
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MemberIS CONSUMER GREED TO BLAME?
slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
9/30/2008 1:06:00 PM
Once the consumer has his net worth and maybe employment stripped from him by either inflation, taxes, more debt and no credit you may think that this is "not the best thing to happen yet".

The bubble created the material things and the burst will take them away

coconut_monkee
coconut_monkee Member (21776posts)
9/30/2008 1:09:00 PM
& so, why is that so bad? Do we really need to live beyond capable means?
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slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
9/30/2008 1:10:00 PM
banks have money to loan, they are just asking for high interest because they see a lot of risk out there

Not true! Banks have money, like the home owner has equity - it's one of the same thing.

But remember, the people may be loosing their jobs and home, at least the US are still trying to democratize Iraq and Afghanistan and give the "good people of Iraq a decent country" - bless their hearts

coconut_monkee
coconut_monkee Member (21776posts)
9/30/2008 1:13:00 PM
maybe this shifting focus will swing votes, then?

slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
10/1/2008 3:27:00 PM
Why is this bad? It's not - it has to happen

lack of domestic and international financing and international support will end the wars - they will have no choice

_Juggy_
_Juggy_ Venue Owner (7182posts)
10/1/2008 3:28:00 PM
it's all make believe money anways

slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
10/2/2008 2:46:00 PM
Juggy TRUE

slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
10/3/2008 4:24:00 PM
no fiat currency is worth the paper it's printed on...literally

coconut_monkee
coconut_monkee Member (21776posts)
10/4/2008 12:17:00 PM
interesting.

coconut_monkee
coconut_monkee Member (21776posts)
11/24/2008 12:18:00 PM
i like how our greed hit a critical mass, and now everything is collapsing, especially vehicle sales, gas prices etc.

And yes, I DO realize gas prices are not entirely affected by the sub-prime meltdown.


Chaos
Chaos Member (8950posts)
11/24/2008 1:05:00 PM
the inflated value of real estate and oil had to crash eventually. most everything else is just following suit.

Huggles
Huggles Venue Owner (20554posts)
11/24/2008 1:09:00 PM
Coconut, I think greed is the way of life in the developed world. There is never enough. Everyone feels entitled to own a home.


So true

Chaos
Chaos Member (8950posts)
11/24/2008 1:11:00 PM
Everyone feels entitled to own a home

monkey see TV, monkey do...

slipmatwax
slipmatwax Member (1103posts)
11/24/2008 4:41:00 PM
when housing returns to 2.5 to 3 times household income we can get back to normal. The credit crisis has been caused by interest rates set lower than GDP and non-existent interest rates on savings

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